"Jack of All Trades"

Speaker 0 00:00:00 Well yank my doodle. We are the SPFI guys. And this is Jack of all trades. Welcome to the SPFI guys where we cover SPFI spy fiction and everything in between I'm Christian Speaker 2 00:00:20 And I'm Zach. Speaker 0 00:00:21 And today we are covering a show that I've never heard of before Jack of all trades, Zach, you're the one who suggested this. What's your relationship with it? Speaker 2 00:00:30 Oh, I will tell you so much about this show. Last week we did burn notice mm-hmm <affirmative> and seeing Bruce Campbell on there. I remembered thinking isn't there some show where Bruce Campbell is a spy, but he is also a superhero Speaker 0 00:00:43 <laugh> Speaker 2 00:00:45 And then I was like, oh yeah, has the best theme song I've ever heard in a TV show. Second, only to JAG, which is also amazing. Speaker 0 00:00:53 I mean, I feel like that <laugh> many other better theme songs. Speaker 2 00:00:58 Oh, I thought you were gonna say there are many better spy slash superhero shows starring Bruce Campbell. Speaker 0 00:01:03 Oh no. I mean, Speaker 2 00:01:04 In states I would Speaker 0 00:01:05 Disagree, but I will. I mean, come on secret agent, man. Although they didn't use in the U in the version we saw, but is a better theme song. Speaker 2 00:01:13 Well, we're not gonna argue about that, but the point is I watched the show in the early two thousands and I watched it back when Netflix had you mail the DVDs. Speaker 0 00:01:21 Oh wow. <laugh> yes. Speaker 2 00:01:23 So I always thought this show was created in the post nine 11 world where everyone was like, America was great. They waved a flag. They make fun of the French. The Brits are allies, but they're also weird and foreign and two but little did I learn this week that it was created in 2000? Yep. So we missed nine 11. So it's all just a weird Speaker 0 00:01:45 Coincidence. We predated it. Yeah. I mean, cuz like a lot of that stuff was there already. It just got exemplified by nine 11. Speaker 2 00:01:55 I mean, don't get me wrong. I like making fun of the French as much as the next guy, but it really lined up well with that whole climate. Speaker 0 00:02:01 Fair enough. You know what I'm actually, if you think about in a weird alternate universe of this was made afterwards, it may have gotten more of seasons. Speaker 2 00:02:09 Yeah. Maybe. So this show was created by the same production level as show was like Xena warrior, princess Hercules, young Hercules. It was filmed in New Zealand to used a lot of New Zealand actors and it was built in an action block. It was this show and the show called Cleopatra 25, 25. Speaker 0 00:02:29 I'm sorry, what? Speaker 2 00:02:30 <laugh> oh, you never heard of that show. Speaker 0 00:02:32 I've never heard of that show. Speaker 2 00:02:33 Yeah. So it starts Gina Torres and it's a bunch of like hot chicks fighting robots. I've actually never seen that. I'm just vaguely familiar with the idea Speaker 0 00:02:43 <laugh> oh man, Speaker 2 00:02:45 If they're also spies, we could cover it. But I don't think that they are, but we're not here to talk about Cleopat for 25, 25. We're gonna talk about Jack of all trades. And today we will be covering the pilot and then the highest rated episode on IMDB, which is called love potion. Number 10. Now this show cannot be streamed anywhere. Currently I bought the DVDs off of Amazon to make sure that we got to see the pilot cuz I didn't feel like this is the kind of show you can just drop into on a random episode. Speaker 0 00:03:13 Yeah, no, not really. No. So do you have our synopsis for the pilot episode, which is titled return of the Dragoo Speaker 2 00:03:19 Okay. Here is the IMDV plot summary. Jack styles rescues the niece of president Thomas Jefferson. When the president finds out, she has been thanking him in bed. He banishes Jack to Paul Apollo, supposedly to stop Napoleon's plans for world domination. Jack is appalled when he finds out his contact is a woman, but together he and Amelia Rothschild managed to complete their first mission. Speaker 0 00:03:42 All right. That's a pretty good summing up. But although, so we start in 1801 somewhere across the Canadian border. Where as you said, the president's niece is captured by the French. Speaker 2 00:03:53 Yes. Because in this world, Speaker 0 00:03:54 French are in ruling Canada. <laugh> Speaker 2 00:03:58 They're like in Canada, they speak French, whatever Speaker 0 00:04:01 <laugh>. Yeah. So apparently Napoleon, this is a classic James Bond plot. Napoleon's planning to get American, the UK to fight against each other because of misunderstanding, which is, you know, like at least 65% of all James Bond plots is getting the us in Russia to fight each other. Even though they're not, they're not the ones causing the problems Speaker 2 00:04:24 As an at least one call of duty game. Oh, but this whole opening is the classic James Bond cold open. Right. They gotta be channeling that Speaker 0 00:04:32 <laugh> oh yeah, definitely. Definitely. Jack Burstin beats up the French freeze, the present Snee and they're about to be captured, but then they start singing Lamar and distract the French guards. Speaker 2 00:04:43 It's Lamar. I always thought it was Lamar S Speaker 0 00:04:46 I mean that is Speaker 2 00:04:47 The dumb American way to say it. Speaker 0 00:04:49 Yes it is. And then J Jack uses the woman's dress as a parachute cuz it's one of those like ones that has the uh, oh, I used to know what this is called. Speaker 2 00:04:58 It's like a big foofy dress. Speaker 0 00:05:00 Yeah. Uh, and then he gives his James Bond style introduction style or was it, is it styles? Speaker 2 00:05:06 Yeah. Speaker 0 00:05:08 Styles. Jack styles. <laugh> Speaker 2 00:05:10 <laugh> so yeah. It's like absurd. He's like what colors? Your underwear actually slaps some he's like, no, I mean, how much do you weigh slap some, the Speaker 0 00:05:17 Underwear thing comes in later. This is more was the what's your dress size was the thank you. Speaker 2 00:05:22 Oh, so I thought it was a call back to Batman when he says to Vicky. Vail. Speaker 0 00:05:26 Yeah. I thought about that too. Speaker 2 00:05:28 <laugh> but it works. Speaker 0 00:05:29 Yeah. Yep. So they end up in bed together because she says how you know, how can I ever thank you. And there's Speaker 2 00:05:35 The good transition where they fall. And then they fall into bed. Mm-hmm <affirmative> that's like some cinematic stuff. Speaker 0 00:05:40 <laugh> then president Jefferson is knocking at the door. So the niece hides under the bed and Jefferson gives him an assignment undercover in pal Palau to fight against Napoleon's plan to take over the world. So the synopsis made it seem like he was being banished. I don't think so. So Speaker 2 00:05:57 I did not get the impression initially of that either though he is disappointed that he isn't going somewhere, that people actually wanna Speaker 0 00:06:05 Go somewhere. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:06:07 Yeah. I also thought it was interesting that they actually had Thomas Jefferson as a character <laugh> I thought it was going to be like a knock on the door and that he was as like a hand was gonna come off from off screen and handed the piece of paper. He Speaker 0 00:06:19 Dreams bond. He's gotta have his M character. So Speaker 2 00:06:23 Yeah, I guess so it is interesting how Thomas Jefferson is now a bit of a persona, non grata, at least only the circles we travel in. Speaker 0 00:06:30 I mean, it depends if you're talking about the Hamilton version, he is not, but is the real person. Yes. Speaker 2 00:06:35 And this is some weird hybrid of it. Two Speaker 0 00:06:37 <laugh>. Yeah. Anyway, so we get our theme song. Speaker 2 00:06:41 Yes. Speaker 0 00:06:42 Very Yankee doodle esque. And then it play is a bit of like Irish music as well. It's kind folksy. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:06:48 We need to spend the next half an hour talking on Speaker 0 00:06:50 The theme song I have. It's amazing. Had a lot to say about it. Speaker 2 00:06:53 It's amazing. It's fantastic. It's so happy makes you so excited that the show was gonna be good and then it's not Speaker 0 00:07:00 <laugh>. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:07:03 Well I just wish I had been there watching you watch it for the first time. What were your thoughts? Tell me, tell me. Speaker 0 00:07:10 I mean, it was more of a, trying to figure out what parts of it were Yankee doodle. What parts of it were Speaker 2 00:07:16 The Marine Corps? How? Speaker 0 00:07:18 Yeah. And other stuff like that. So it, I mean, I didn't have a strong reaction to it per se. Speaker 2 00:07:25 I don't even know what to tell you. Theme. Song's the best part at the shell. You didn't like it it's all downhill from here. Speaker 0 00:07:30 <laugh> all right. All right. Speaker 2 00:07:32 So some parts I like is the part where they all smash the beer glasses together. Speaker 0 00:07:37 That just made me sad with, of all that wasted beer. Speaker 2 00:07:41 Oh, it's so fun. It's so great. But then at the end of it, the parrot looks at a guy and the parrot says like, whoa, group burner. Cause in the, every other episode, yeah, opening, the parrot says damn right, is Jack, but in the pilot he says something else. Speaker 0 00:07:57 Really? I didn't even notice mm-hmm Speaker 2 00:07:59 <affirmative> well, you know what? I wanna go back for a second. Sure. In Jefferson's note to Jack, he says the fate of the free world depends on this. And that reminded me of not other than operation MITs me where the fate of the free world depends on everything Speaker 0 00:08:13 Or any other spy movie. Speaker 2 00:08:15 Yeah. That too. Speaker 0 00:08:16 So we get to pal pal where it's a mix of, you know, a few white people, a lot of Palauans, Speaker 2 00:08:25 Right? They say it's in the east Indies, but the extras look Asian, but all the natives who actually have speaking roles are white. It's very confusing. Speaker 0 00:08:35 So I mean, you know where the east Indies is, right? Speaker 3 00:08:40 <laugh> Speaker 0 00:08:42 Your silence is deafening. <laugh> the east Indies are well, Philippines, Indonesia, that area. So it is Asia. Speaker 2 00:08:50 So that makes sense. Yeah. I was like, I tell that are the Caribbean. Speaker 0 00:08:53 Yeah. And it's definitely not the, the Caribbean mm-hmm <affirmative>. Um, but yeah, so he runs into this kid who has a doll with a mask and a Cape. Apparently it's a lo local folk hero and myth called the daring Dragoo and the woman who's explaining to us all of this to him is his contact Amelia Roth's child who's British. Speaker 2 00:09:12 And when she's introduced, there's this big music here, like <laugh>, I can't really do it, but it's very distinctive sounding. Speaker 0 00:09:21 Okay. Speaker 2 00:09:21 And she is much shorter than Bruce Campbell. Speaker 0 00:09:24 I mean, how tall is Bruce Campbell? I feel like he's pretty tall. Speaker 2 00:09:28 He is tall, but in shows like burn notice, which we covered last week, Uhhuh, the female lead often wears very high heels. This is also true in castle. And the reason for this is because in a shot, reverse shot mm-hmm <affirmative> you want them to look more or less the same height, right? So that it's not so glaringly obvious, like it is here. Speaker 0 00:09:47 It also where heels a thing by this point. Speaker 2 00:09:50 No, no, the actor wears it. Not the character. I mean, it, obviously you could have them do both and that's fine, but Speaker 0 00:09:57 Well, anyway, so he's a little put off by the, the fact that she is one British and two, a woman. Yes. You sort of shuts him down immediately. Mm-hmm <affirmative> she shows him her house, which is where he'll be staying. It's a nice, pretty nice place. We find out that she's a widow. And then she shows him into her secret lab where she walks through the fireplace to, to show it off. And yeah, it's, it's cool. Basically a bat cave mm-hmm <affirmative> and this smoke and mirrors like how they explain it. It's completely ridiculous. Cause it looks like a fully functioning fireplace, but it's basically a hologram and they have like a bunch of mirrors set up and like ridiculous, fake flame, which would not produce the effect that they're showing here. Speaker 2 00:10:44 Yeah. They have the thing that spins around to simulate motion. Mm-hmm <affirmative> I don't remember what it's called. I remember learning about it in school. It's funny. Oh, something I wanted to jump in about Amelia. Yeah. Which is her actor is played by Angela Marie doin or Chen. Speaker 0 00:11:00 Okay. Speaker 2 00:11:00 There's a couple things about her. She's a New Zealand actor. Speaker 0 00:11:03 Right? Speaker 2 00:11:04 Sometimes they move out, but she did not. She does New Zealand shows. But according to my research for six years, she dated Tamora Morrison another New Zealand. Speaker 0 00:11:13 Yeah. I saw that when I was looking at, cause it was like, she's gotta be in something else. She looks so familiar, but nothing I've seen Speaker 2 00:11:20 Nothing in front of the camera besides us. Speaker 0 00:11:22 Well, I mean, she's been in other, she was in like Hercules and Xena and young Hercules, but I didn't watch any of those. Speaker 2 00:11:28 Yeah. All those New Zealand one shows. Speaker 0 00:11:29 Yeah. Anyways, so yeah. Her bat cave. It's also like QS lab as well. <laugh> Speaker 2 00:11:35 Yeah. So this is why on IMDB. The show is also labeled steampunk. Speaker 0 00:11:41 Uh, yeah, Speaker 2 00:11:42 This is very much a steampunk Speaker 0 00:11:43 Set. So like I keep on call him, Bruce Jack runs into runs into something and like a diving helmet falls on his head. Speaker 2 00:11:51 Yeah. That's a little slapstick comedy Speaker 0 00:11:53 And apparently it's also soundproof. So whatever they get up to down there mm-hmm, <affirmative>, won't be heard by anyone outside Jack of course thinks, well, you know, if, so, if you're saying that if I bring a lady friend over here, you won't hear a thing. And she says, yes, but this is all supposed to be a secret Speaker 2 00:12:11 <laugh> somehow he's been aspired for years and he doesn't understand how being a spy works. <laugh> so I was hoping with this show that it was gonna be like the Avengers, the old Avengers. Oh yeah. With like the duo and a little bit of will. They won't they, and I think maybe they were trying for that mm-hmm <affirmative> and uh, this is not the same. That's really hard to replicate. Speaker 0 00:12:32 It worked better than the 1998 Avengers did Speaker 2 00:12:35 We don't talk about that. We didn't talk about that. Except for every episode we give it one more to, Speaker 0 00:12:40 So we find out what the mission is and it's apparently French soldiers have arrived just before Jack did. The governor is gonna give them their orders and Amelia has set up tea with the governor. So while they're having tea, they've gotta uncover the orders and war on their intended target. Speaker 2 00:12:57 Yeah. And by the San of this show, that is a very down to earth PLA Speaker 0 00:13:02 <laugh> all right. So we meet governor CRO, who is in his mansion, he's hanging his family portrait up. We found out that his brother is Napoleon. Speaker 2 00:13:13 Yes. Speaker 0 00:13:13 And a soldier enters says that someone has painted the symbol of the Jaron on the wall. Governor CRO, you know, dismisses immediately. And Jack asks to use one of the, uh, porcelain throne as he calls it. Speaker 2 00:13:25 So I wanna jump in here. Yes. Napoleon is depicted in a painting as a dwarf. Yep. Standing on a step ladder. We're gonna have more about that later, but Jack makes a joke about how short he is and it doesn't go over well. But then he makes another joke about how he's a lepro con looking for a pot of cold. And everyone laugh at that, including Amelia, my interpretation that Amelia being English hates the Irish and appreciate me joke at their expense. Speaker 0 00:13:52 No, that's not what happened. And if you you'll watch, if you rewatch it, so Jack starts laughing and then immediately, uh, laughs. To try to get CRO to start laughing. Just say face. Speaker 2 00:14:05 Yeah, I got that. But my interpretation's funnier is Speaker 0 00:14:08 It though, Speaker 2 00:14:09 Like, come on, Speaker 0 00:14:10 Uh, Jack, doesn't go to the bathroom and is actually snooping. He sees some nice cigars on CROs desk and pockets. Them finds a pack of NTY playing cards that he gets distracted by. Speaker 2 00:14:23 Of course he does. I also like how, when he goes to the porcelain throne, Amelia immediately pulls out her bag and has some bureaucracy and signing stuff for them to do. Speaker 0 00:14:33 She's a good spy. Speaker 2 00:14:34 And does the, the writers actually like thought about that? Yeah. I thought that was again, pretty impressive for the show. Speaker 0 00:14:40 <laugh> seemingly a while has passed and he has got his feet up on the desk of the governor. Mely finds him, apparently everyone's looking for him now. And he says that. Yeah, no, I haven't seen the orders anywhere. So I don't, you gave me, you know, an impossible task. Speaker 2 00:15:00 So apparently just take five, if you can't find the orders, don't worry about Speaker 0 00:15:03 It. Right. So soldiers are barging in the door saying that, you know, breaking into the governor's offices, crime punishable by death and captain of the guard has his men, uh, trying to, you know, break through the door by basically just running into it. Speaker 2 00:15:18 Yeah. He has the biggest guy there. Just keep running into it. And I gotta say, you know, I like being in front of the French, but these uniforms look really cool. The French uniforms, they look great. Mm Speaker 0 00:15:27 Yeah, no, they're good. So Jack finds a hat, tears down a curtain and then asks Amelia what color her underwear is. This is where the underwear came in. And it's not for anything sexual it's because he needs a mask because he's gonna disguise himself as the daring Dragoon. Speaker 2 00:15:44 Yeah. God forbid he create his mask out of literally any other material, but whatever, he doesn't get slapped again, which is funny. It makes me wonder if Sam Remi has more of an influence on this show than just a producer. Speaker 0 00:15:57 I mean, a producer is a pretty important role, you know? Speaker 2 00:16:00 Well, for those who don't get that joke when they were doing evil, dead movies, Sam Remi would abuse Bruce Campbell mercilessly, both on and off the camera. Cuz they're friends. Speaker 0 00:16:09 I mean also in Dr. Strange in the multiverse madness spoilers for that movie, if you haven't. Speaker 2 00:16:14 Yeah. Well it's been going on for decades and now it's an end joke. Speaker 0 00:16:17 Mm-hmm <affirmative> so probably yes. When they ask for what he's demanding, he starts Ving and even like starts paraphrasing the declaration of independence. Speaker 2 00:16:28 Yeah. He just says, and I'm gonna free. Where are we again? Tall P Speaker 0 00:16:32 <laugh> has a sword. And uh, use does the old, you know, cut down the chandelier trick to trap the troops under a chandelier. Mm-hmm <affirmative> jumps out the window, but is actually hanging on to the very edge as the troops, like try to find him down on the, on the ground floor. And then you come, Amelia helps him come back inside. Speaker 2 00:16:50 Yeah. And it's a recurring joke on this show that the daring tri goon is very clearly Jack <laugh> like, he talks the same. He pretty much looks the same and yet nobody can figure it out. Speaker 0 00:17:02 That's hilarious. Your standard superhero, dual identity thing. Speaker 2 00:17:06 Well at least Christian bailed as a voice when he is bad, man. Speaker 0 00:17:10 Yeah. But I mean, did you ever watch the show that definitely clearly inspired this show? The 19 50 0, Speaker 2 00:17:18 The 19 50 0? I have not seen, I thought you were gonna say Batman 66. Cause there's a lot of air here too. Speaker 0 00:17:24 Um, I'd say there's more of the Xero stuff in here. Speaker 2 00:17:26 Well, I mean, yeah, clearly he looks like Zora, he's got the sword and the Cape, whatever. Where is I going with this Speaker 0 00:17:32 Great question? Not sure Uhhuh. Well, yeah, but I'm saying that this like, oh right. Just your standard superhero thing. That's what you, I was saying and yeah, no that zero doesn't change his voice or anything at all either. Speaker 2 00:17:45 And he has close contact with the people that Speaker 0 00:17:48 Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Like his best fr like he's best friends with what the captain of the guard. He frequently talks to the governor of Pueblo de California or Los Angeles, which is where, or yeah, it's Los Angeles. But yeah, it is a blueprint for this show as well as, you know, the many other zero spinoffs that have like other, you know, reboots like the shadow. No, not I'm just like of X itself anyways, but yeah. So everyone goes outside and Jack appears having missed all the action. Very Clark Ken, Speaker 2 00:18:23 Very typical. Speaker 0 00:18:24 Yeah. Back in the lab, Amelia is at upset at having to play the damsel distress in that scenario because he like had her at sword point. Yeah. And Jack says he plans to continue as a daring Dragoon. And Amelia wants to have him replaced, says she'll send a letter to president Jefferson. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:18:42 She basically says something like live it to a woman to do a man's job. Speaker 0 00:18:45 So yeah. So she's gonna go finish the mission herself. Apparently French captains don't open their orders until they have set sale. So even if they have the orders already, it's not too late. Right. So Amelia uses her diving helmet to sneak onto the ship, which that was a good setup. Like I thought that was gonna be a run just a one off gag mm-hmm <affirmative> so she's using it. She doesn't have, she's basically in a swimsuit and then has the helmet over her head, have you ever, Speaker 2 00:19:10 No, I have not used one of these giant diving suits Speaker 0 00:19:13 Or just, just the helmet. So I have Uhhuh in the Philippines. Um, they have something, a more modern version of, but it's basically, I think I've got, I've got pictures somewhere, basically just the diving helmet that you put on and the way that I don't know how it's it works, but so you, the water's just under, under your neck basically. Mm-hmm <affirmative> make sure you don't trip. Speaker 2 00:19:35 I was gonna say, are you doing it when you were traveling with captain Nebo with a Nautilus? <laugh> Speaker 0 00:19:41 I mean sure. <laugh> but it was fun. It was cool. It was a cool way to see, be able to go down and walk on the ocean floor without having to learn how to scuba dive, which you know, is also on my list. But you know, it all easier. And like they had some things that were sunken down there, like a, uh, a jet ski that was down there that they had sunk. And I think like a car they had down there and like, Ooh, neat made statue. So like stuff you could explore around, not just, okay, here's the ocean floor. Right. Anyway. So she's gets up onto the boat. She sneaks in, starts looking for the orders. A soldier notices her helmet and her wet footprints. And as they're about to burst into the door, Jack now with a much nicer looking costume, not makeshift this time. Yep. Distracts the soldiers while Amelia escapes. The sword fighting here is not great. Speaker 2 00:20:32 Oh, you didn't like it. I liked it. Speaker 0 00:20:35 It's cute. I was judging it. I was like, all right. Is there, you know, I mean, like for example, go back to any of these Z shows. Mm-hmm, <affirmative> be it in the fifties, the eighties or the nineties, they all had good sword fighting, fighting, at least this did not. Speaker 2 00:20:49 So a couple things here. I like how he swings on a rope onto the ship of like a rope from nowhere, like in return of the Jedi. Yeah. And then I also noticed that apparently the daring drag goons catchphrase is just a big laugh <laugh> he just does it over and over again. Speaker 0 00:21:03 And then I was like, oh, alright. You know, maybe, you know, they weren't doing good big sword fights for the goons. And maybe when the captain shows up, that'd be a better sword fight. It was not. Or if it was the camera work, failed him, cuz it was all over the place and it did not, not make it exciting. Speaker 2 00:21:22 I liked Speaker 0 00:21:23 Ted anyway. So back at her place immediately reveals that she actually switched the orders and the boats will, you know, end up somewhere around the south pole. Jack is packed up, ready to leave. And Amelia says, you know what? I don't approve of your methods, but your heart's in the right place. So if I write another letter reinstating, you would you stay. And Jack says, oh, actually intercepted the first letter and pulls it out, tears it up. He Speaker 2 00:21:47 Says, I knew you'd change your mind. And it's like classic Speaker 0 00:21:51 Jack. So he says, I would like to see you in the lab. Oh, where it's soundproof. You're gonna shout at me. Aren't you Speaker 2 00:21:58 <laugh>. Speaker 0 00:21:58 Yeah. And without our episode. And Speaker 2 00:22:01 So now it's time for our spy fact versus fiction. I have a little bit, so I guess I will start with the obvious here, which is from history.com was Napoleon actually short <laugh>. Speaker 0 00:22:13 Yeah. That's actually a good one. I didn't actually think about doing that. Okay. Speaker 2 00:22:16 In fact, according to them, he was probably of average height. According to Preme system, French measurements, he was five foot two, but the French inch was different from the Imperial inch. The Imperial Lynch was shorter. Oh. According to three French sources, his valet, one of his generals and his personal physician, they said that Napoleon site was five, two in French, which could make him just over five, five. Now I am five, five. And I've been told my whole life that I am short. I always thought everyone else was freakishly tall. But according again, to history.com, Napoleon being five, five is an interest. So below the periods, average adult male height. Speaker 0 00:22:57 Interesting. I mean five, seven or five, eight is somewhere supposed to be around average height nowadays. Speaker 2 00:23:03 All right. So that's not too bad. I Speaker 0 00:23:04 Mean, that's about how Tom cruise is, but everyone's also calls him short. Speaker 2 00:23:08 Right? Well, people suck. So now you may be wondering if Napoleon was of average height, where did the legend of him being short come from? Speaker 0 00:23:16 Okay. Where Speaker 2 00:23:17 It was in fact largely the work of one man, a British cartoon is named James Gil Ray. Speaker 0 00:23:21 Ah, of course Speaker 2 00:23:22 He depicted the French general in such a popular and influential way that the end of his life Napoleon said that Gill Ray quote did more than all the armies of Europe to bring me down Speaker 0 00:23:33 <laugh> Speaker 2 00:23:35 To start with cartoons of just Napoleon throwing a fit. But then in 1803, he created one called maniac ravings or a little bony and a strong fit, which was a satire of an diplomatic incident where Napoleon invented his rage at the British ambassador. Now that depicted a tiny Napoleon wearing boosted, dwarf him, tearing out his hair and rage, surrounded by overturn furniture, with big speech bubbles. And then the name little bony would stick and then more cartoons would carry on and you can see it all the way through to bill and Ted's excellent adventure <laugh> and then to this show. Speaker 0 00:24:10 Right. Right. All right. So I've got a few things. Um, one in the very, in one of the early scenes, Jefferson says that if, if you touch my niece, I'll have George Washington cut down your cherry tree. Right. So according to Wikipedia, so this is in 1801, George Washington died in 1799. So he'd be dead already. Speaker 2 00:24:31 I assumed he was a metaphorical. Speaker 0 00:24:32 Yeah. Still. I mean, if you're gonna pick a metaphor, pick someone who's alive. Speaker 2 00:24:36 Yeah. Speaker 0 00:24:37 Maybe next also from Wikipedia. So there is no far as I could find no actual island called pal pal. However, there is the island nation of pal, just one pal, which is actually in the, uh, east Indies mm-hmm <affirmative> however, it was never under French control. So as far as I know is usually under Spanish control. Uh, however pal actually does mean island in the Malay language. So it is possible, there is some island that was called Pau Pau, but there's no so far as I could find on Wikipedia elsewhere. No actual island. Speaker 2 00:25:13 I Speaker 0 00:25:13 See. So going back to Napoleon, I was curious. All right. Did he have any siblings? I didn't know. So I looked on Wikipedia. He was the fourth child and third son of the family. He had an elder brother, Joseph and younger siblings. Zian Eliza, Louie Pauline, Caroline and J Speaker 2 00:25:33 Oh my gosh. No Speaker 0 00:25:34 CRO. Speaker 2 00:25:34 Wow. How tall are they? Speaker 0 00:25:36 Uh, no idea. <laugh> Jack re refers to the toilet as the porcelain throne. No, no. I was curious. All right. When was the toilet invented? Speaker 2 00:25:46 Was it invented by James crapper or is that enough? Speaker 0 00:25:49 Um, that is a myth seemingly mm-hmm <affirmative> there are very many types of toilets mm-hmm <affirmative> so it depends on how you define the toilet of when it was invented. The pre-modern flush toilets, according to Wikipedia <laugh> have existed the, since the neolithic, but the modern flush toilet was invented in 1596 by sir John Harrington. Mm-hmm <affirmative> uh, however, they weren't starting to build, be built out of, uh, porcelain, I believe until in 1840. Oh, they weren't starting to be built out of porcelain until about the 1840s. If I, if I'm re reading this correctly. Mm-hmm <affirmative> although Thomas Craper and it's not Joan Craper it's Thomas Craper mm-hmm <affirmative> did not invent the flush toilet. He was a leading manufacturer. I Speaker 2 00:26:39 See. Speaker 0 00:26:39 Yes. All right. And lastly, for this, the diving helmet mm-hmm <affirmative> so the first successful diving helmets were produced by the brothers, Charles and John Dean in the 1820s. This is from Wikipedia. Um, but the more popular design that we think of the one that's featured here was not made until the 1830s. Speaker 2 00:27:01 So it was a little bit ahead of its Speaker 0 00:27:02 Time, a little bit ahead of its time. I'm gonna give it to give it to her with like prototyping and whatnot. And she's just, you know, that good mm-hmm <affirmative>, you know, I mean, she there's at least around the same time period. Speaker 2 00:27:14 Right. Speaker 0 00:27:15 Should we do any favorite quotes? Speaker 2 00:27:17 Uh, yeah, I quite a few. So why don't you go first? Speaker 0 00:27:19 All right. I mean, I like Jack's first line. I would've napped, but my fist had other plans. Speaker 2 00:27:25 I think that's on IMDB as well. Speaker 0 00:27:27 <laugh> and I'd love to stay in chat, but I'm allergic to lead. Speaker 2 00:27:31 Yeah. You like those cheesy ones? Speaker 0 00:27:32 I do. What do you get? Speaker 2 00:27:34 Uh, I like when he first meets civilian and they get into an argument, she gives him a piece of paper and the paper says shut up and do what the lady says. Speaker 0 00:27:41 That was good. Is that technically quote like, no, he does. Did read it out, I guess. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:27:46 When he's facing off with the captain of the guard, the captain of the guard says something. I don't even remember what it is. Yeah. Does this long speech. And then Jack just says, what the hell are you talking about? Speaker 0 00:27:56 <laugh> Speaker 2 00:27:57 And then finally he's looking at the cards. He says, poker, I hardly know her, which isn't that good? But he has a huge laugh at his own joke, which as someone who also laughs at their own jokes, I find that Abu Speaker 0 00:28:08 You would Speaker 2 00:28:09 All right. Now what is time for our ratings on a scale of one to 10 martinis, one being Avengers, 1997 and 10 being even better than burn notice pilot, how would we rate return of the Dragoon? Speaker 0 00:28:22 I was generally amused by the episode. I, I mean, it was, it wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible. So I'm just gonna give this a five outta 10. Speaker 2 00:28:33 Well, if I was just going by the theme song, the theme song is a 10 outta 10. Clearly. Speaker 0 00:28:39 Unfortunately Speaker 2 00:28:40 We're doing the whole episode. So here's my review. This is hard to rate for me. It's throw back to a previous time. It's not a good show. Speaker 0 00:28:50 <laugh> Speaker 2 00:28:50 It's just not, it's very dated in a lot of ways. Next episode will be even more so mm-hmm <affirmative> but I still did like it. I'm gonna give it a six out of 10. Speaker 0 00:28:59 All right. Speaker 2 00:29:00 It touched my heart. I like Bruce Campbell. Speaker 0 00:29:02 Okay. All. Speaker 2 00:29:04 Okay. So we're on to the next episode. The highest rated episode of the show on IMDB called love potion number 10. And here is the plot synopsis. When CRO must satisfy his newly returned wife or lose the governorship of P pow Jack and Amelia accidentally break Amelia's love potion. They must fight its effects in order to complete their mission. Speaker 0 00:29:26 Hmm. All right. Yeah. That pretty much sums it up. So we start with the governor stopping by the house to see Jack. So this is what 11 episodes in. So seeming like, you know, now they're friends and whatnot and right. I'm sure there was character development in, in the middle to Speaker 2 00:29:39 No, but it's more, more like everyone loves Jack. Uh, he's so magnetic and the governor is like a towed. Like he doesn't have much of a spinal column, so he'll just gravitate to everybody. <laugh> immediately trust Speaker 0 00:29:51 Them. Amelia E Eves dropping as they're talking. Apparently the governor's wife, Camille is arriving soon from Europe and apparently Napoleon believed that CRO is not man enough to rule Palau Palau from what CAMIO said. And apparently it's been a while for CRO in terms of mm-hmm <affirmative> in terms of marital relations. Mm-hmm <affirmative> what he's discovered is that if he can't satisfy his wife, Napoleon will make her governor. Speaker 2 00:30:19 That's hilarious. Speaker 0 00:30:20 And also kind of progressive if, when woman governor in 18. Oh one. Speaker 2 00:30:23 Absolutely. So the whole plot of this episode is around erectile dysfunction, Uhhuh <affirmative> yeah. And that made me think, oh wow. Cause I was like, what is the target audience of this show? Cause I only watched a few episodes. I didn't remember any extreme adult content. Okay. Uh, the last episode we had them in bed together, but that's James Bond level. I mean, whatever mm-hmm <affirmative> but this episode has a fair amount of, I would say at least teenager and up content that reminded me of a quote. I read from a review of a movie called cutthroat island starring, uh, the star of the long kiss. Goodnight. I don't remember her name right now. Gina something. Speaker 0 00:31:01 Gina Davis, Speaker 2 00:31:02 Gina Davis. So the quote is this movie is too stupid for adults, but contains too much adult content to be suitable for children. Speaker 0 00:31:10 So teenagers. Speaker 2 00:31:11 Well, that's what this show reminds me of. If you think of that. Speaker 0 00:31:14 So in the lab, Jack tells Amelia what's going on he's she knows Camille. And apparently it'll be worse if she's governor. Speaker 2 00:31:22 Yeah. She's worse in every way. Like she's meaner and she's actually smart. Unlike K who's pretty dumb. Right? Speaker 0 00:31:27 So she suggests something that will help, uh, straighten out the issue. Shall we say <laugh>, there's a lot of bad puns here involving erections. Speaker 2 00:31:37 I was gonna say, you could write for this show. Speaker 0 00:31:38 I, I just took one. That was one of the show. Speaker 2 00:31:41 Oh, it was forgot that one. Speaker 0 00:31:43 Uh, but Jack makes a comment that, you know, they're not always the most effective and Amelia says, well, I'll just have to, you know, do something in the lab to make it more potent. Sor and Camille are riding along in their carriage is a tree blocking their path. Speaker 2 00:31:57 You know what this reminding me off. Why you block the path? Bats come out. Michael Collins. Just say rush hour in Ireland. Speaker 0 00:32:04 <laugh> oh God. Speaker 2 00:32:08 Yeah. But in this scene we get a little bit of politics where they're like, oh, we thought the Dragoon fights with the people. And he says, that's right, but I can't stand crime. Speaker 0 00:32:17 <laugh> yeah. So wasn't he beat got there already. The soldiers fight back Jack and Amelia spot them. So Jack runs over to help and you know, somehow has that entire outfit on his, his body, which Speaker 2 00:32:29 Is great. <laugh> it's hilarious. Speaker 0 00:32:32 Jago yeah. Rescues Camille. But the whole time Camille is quite taken with the Jago. Speaker 2 00:32:38 Well, sure. He's a man of action. What's not to like, Speaker 0 00:32:41 And whereas CRO the governor, you know, falls over and falls and gets mud all over him and looks emasculated. Speaker 2 00:32:49 Yeah. So its the 2000 slapstick comedy where someone falling into wide is the height of, Speaker 0 00:32:54 I would say it probably peaked in like the mid to late nineties. Speaker 2 00:32:58 Well there you go. Speaker 0 00:33:00 So we get our theme UNG again and apparently I didn't notice it that the parrot says something else this time. Speaker 2 00:33:05 Yeah. It says damn right. It's Jack. I, we to talk about the, on the opening, if you don't mind. No, I'm just kidding. It's exactly the same, but it's still great. Speaker 0 00:33:13 I was like, did it change that? I not notice. I, Speaker 2 00:33:17 Yeah. It's all like the Simpsons where it changes a little bit. Every time Speaker 0 00:33:20 Uhhuh, Amelia is mad at Jack because Camille is falling for the Dragoon instead of, you know, falling for her husband. Speaker 2 00:33:27 Right. Speaker 0 00:33:28 Jack points out that a aphrodisiac like they're trying to find can only fan the flames of passion. Not ignite them from scratch. Speaker 2 00:33:35 Yeah. They have this really long discussion about whether or not marriage is like good. Oh yeah. For the relationship, it just goes on and on and on. And it reminds me of that quote from clue, which is life after death is almost as farfetched as sex after marriage. Speaker 0 00:33:51 Huh. Speaker 2 00:33:52 Great movie. Speaker 0 00:33:53 Um, yeah. So yeah. J like you said, Jack believes that marriage kills passion and mm-hmm <affirmative> Melia points out the fact that she was married for five years and you know, that didn't kill any of their passion. Speaker 2 00:34:04 Yeah. It feels like it comes right after the pilot because they talked about a lot of stuff. That's in the pilot, Speaker 0 00:34:09 Back at the governor's mansion, CRO visits, Camille in her chambers. She criticizes his lack of action when she was in danger. So she wants to hear more about the Dragoon. She's getting all hot and bothered by it. Uh, she tells CRO that he has to, since he's not feeling well. So she says he has to stay in bed until she lets him outta the bed. Right. And she goes to take a bath and brings a banana with her. Speaker 2 00:34:36 Yeah. So like female masturbation joke in my notes. Speaker 0 00:34:40 Yeah. So Jack is looking for an aphrodisiac in the marketplace. He finds one Spanish fly mm-hmm <affirmative> Melia states that she's gonna use her lab to double the effect as this is all going on. All the women folk in the marketplace are all laughing and giggling and, and Speaker 2 00:34:57 Yeah, this is great. I like when he's the butt of the jokes. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:35:01 Oh yeah. No, that was good. As this is going on, they spot some trouble nearby. The captain of the guard is having a bunch of innocent people arrested. They're gonna be hanged in the morning, even though they, he knows that they're completely innocent is all by order of the governor's wife. Speaker 2 00:35:16 Yeah. This is a little hardcore for this show. People don't usually die. Yeah. Or even get threatened with death. It's supposed to be all light and fun and breezy. And at the end of the episode, they don't get released. At least. I don't remember. Speaker 0 00:35:28 <laugh> Speaker 2 00:35:28 I do the writers for a guy. Speaker 0 00:35:30 Yes. But what we find out is this is actually just, you know, their meaningless, she doesn't care about them at all. What she's trying to do do is lure the Dragoon out. Speaker 2 00:35:39 Yes. And Jack is totally up for meeting her and getting to know her better. Speaker 0 00:35:44 So Amelia is in the lab making the Spanish fly more potent and yeah. So Jack suggests he seduce Camille to get her to free of the prisoners. Amelia thinks that, you know, Camille could be trying to spring a trap on him. And she's also made the Spanish fly 10 times as strong <laugh> Jack doesn't believe it'll work. And they argue back and forth about whether or not to give it to CRO. And of course I saw this coming a mile away. Speaker 2 00:36:11 Of course he did. Cuz they took forever. And then there was this suspense, like music that sounded like the jaws theme Speaker 0 00:36:17 <laugh> but yeah. So as they're arguing, they drop the vial that the Spanish fly was in and they both are affected by it. Speaker 2 00:36:26 Yeah. It creates a cloud that looks like a heart. Like it's from a cartoon. Speaker 0 00:36:30 They like almost kiss a few times, but they like resist it right at the last second. They even start getting undressed Speaker 2 00:36:38 Again, this part goes on for so long and it's like, okay, we get it. And when the part where it gets to the spanking, Speaker 0 00:36:47 Oh, Speaker 2 00:36:47 Is a little like that's that's one day when a bridge too far to go to movie, we haven't seen, it's like, okay, we get it. We get it. Stop. I don't need to see Bruce. Campbell's take Whitey. Thank you very much. Speaker 0 00:37:01 They keep resisting at the last moment. Mm-hmm <affirmative> and then Jack leaves to get out of there. Speaker 2 00:37:07 I also have another couple things to say about this scene. There's a part where Jack advances on Amelia and he has a scary face. Do you remember this? It looks like something outta the evil dead movies. Speaker 0 00:37:17 Okay. Speaker 2 00:37:18 Yeah. Obviously you're not gonna go back and watch it cuz why would you, but you say my word for it, but then also the whole reason why they don't want to start kissing and go further is because there's like this subtext where they're like, oh we're friends and we need to stay friends. And if we're not friends, then it's all gonna ruin everything. Yeah. And that of remind me also a lot of the Avengers, except in the Avengers, it was all unspoken right here. They're very much speaking. Speaker 0 00:37:43 Oh not in the movie. Speaker 2 00:37:45 Yes, of course. I'm talking about this show. We don't talk about the movie except when we do right. You get the picture. Speaker 0 00:37:51 Yeah. Yeah. Sor is still in his bed and Jack comes to visit. He says that he doesn't have any love potions for hi him, but he's got something better. What does he have? It's a Dragoon outfit for him. He says to go to the Cox Saint Jack at eight o'clock Speaker 2 00:38:07 Yeah. I assume it's the Dragoon costume. It's Speaker 0 00:38:10 Probably Speaker 2 00:38:10 It in a smarter show. Crow point. Be like, how'd you get it? But this is not Speaker 0 00:38:14 A smart, show's not smart. Speaker 2 00:38:16 <laugh> yeah. Speaker 0 00:38:18 Also I feel like by that point, I mean look at the costume. It's it's a little fancy, but I'm sure it's something someone could make easily Speaker 2 00:38:26 It's reducible. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:38:28 Yeah. So Jack is back at the house and has a message sent to Camille for her eyes only, uh, Amelia finds him. She's jealous thinks that he slept with Camille, but he swears and nothing happened and says that his plan to get Camille and cropped back together is might just might work the almost hits again. And then Jack leaves again. And then we get the only real moment of spy action in this episode, right. Where Amelia takes the pad that Jack was writing on back to lab spreads, black powder on it. And then, uh, uses that to find out, to get a imprint of what he was actually writing to find out what his plan is. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:39:08 Usually in spy movies, they just move a pencil really fast across it. That's what we normally say. Speaker 0 00:39:14 Right? Yeah. But I didn't look up when the pencil was invested to see if that could have been done, but yeah. Speaker 2 00:39:20 Yeah. Cuz they use quills and come around now. Yeah. Also Jack's exit in this scene is very much a Albe in my bunk for you Firefly fans. Speaker 0 00:39:28 Yeah. But she sees that the message is for Camille to meet the Dragoon at the Cox Saint Jack at 8:00 PM and to wear red mm-hmm <affirmative> so we see the captain visiting a brothel, which is apparently the Cox St. Jack. I did not really or St. Jacque, excuse Speaker 2 00:39:43 Me. Right. So again, this is not appropriate content for children. So it was interesting to see the captain there cuz when I watched the early episodes way back in 2004, whatever, I always assumed that him and CRO were gay for each other. They just didn't wanna admit it. It was like unrequited. Cause it was the times they couldn't admit it to themselves, but apparently not. Speaker 0 00:40:03 I mean he could be by that is another option. Speaker 2 00:40:06 Yeah. Well I'm not gonna go back. Maybe I will watch every episode of this series and we'll see if they reveal that you Speaker 0 00:40:11 Can own them. Now. Speaker 2 00:40:12 I guess I have to, Speaker 0 00:40:14 Someone arrives with a red cloak and the hood over their head. The Madam says she's expecting them, leads them into a room right across the hall. Jock is or not jock Jack that's. Why would you have Jacque and Jack in that episode? Speaker 2 00:40:30 Excellent question. Speaker 0 00:40:31 Unless you just wanted it to rhyme the Cox saying jock mm-hmm <affirmative> right across the hall. Uh, Jack is getting CRO ready in the Dragoon costume, sends him out. And of course the captain having finished seemingly quite quickly. I didn't think about the timeline there. Speaker 2 00:40:48 Well, I thought he was waiting for his girl to arrive and then he saw the captain run by. Speaker 0 00:40:53 I thought he had already finished with one. I don't know Speaker 2 00:40:56 <laugh> who knows? Speaker 0 00:40:59 Yeah, but he spots CRO dressed as the reg Dragoon roaming. The halls Speaker 2 00:41:03 Is hilarious. This reminded me of this old movie called the court jester, which is a lot of running around and MIS adventures and people disguise as other people. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:41:12 As soon as that happened, I knew exactly where the rest of them go Speaker 2 00:41:17 Uhhuh. Speaker 0 00:41:18 Yeah. So Jack comes down the stairs and just then spots Camille entering, pulling a hood down. So if she's down there, who's up there. Speaker 2 00:41:29 Oh my gosh. What are you doing here? What are you doing here? Speaker 0 00:41:32 <laugh> and then the captain runs down saying the Dragoon is here. So Jack runs back upstairs. Apparently the girl in the red CLO was Amelia and Jack finds her en CRO who only just discovers that it's Amelia and is wondering, okay, where is Camille there? <laugh> and at that moment, the captain is banging on the door, demanding that the Dragoon surrender, they put crock in a closet mm-hmm <affirmative> and Jack, you know, takes the hat off of crock and forms a makeshift Dragoon outfit by taking Amelia's red cloak and then her underwear again for the mask. Speaker 2 00:42:08 Yeah. He says, I'm gonna need your underwear again. Like a pilot just happened, right? Yeah. Not 11 episodes earlier, which would be months ago in real time. Speaker 0 00:42:17 Where was that? Oh yes. Speaker 2 00:42:18 There's a sword fight. Cause there's always the sword fight in the Speaker 0 00:42:21 Show. There's a sword fight this time. Maybe they've got, uh, Bruce Campbell a little more train on the, with a rape here. Now. Speaker 2 00:42:28 Have you seen army of darkness? Speaker 0 00:42:30 I have not actually. Speaker 2 00:42:31 There's some pretty good sort of fighting about Bruce Campbell on that. Speaker 0 00:42:34 Is it a sword or is it a chainsaw? Speaker 2 00:42:36 It's a sword and a chainsaw. Okay. But not at the same time, two different scenes. Speaker 0 00:42:40 Okay. Well then maybe they just need to train everyone else. Cause yeah. That first episode, that sword fight was appalling. Speaker 2 00:42:47 <laugh> appalling. He says, yes, Speaker 0 00:42:49 Yes. But you know, this one is better. And I think also the camera work was better. They actually lingered on the shots and like when they made quick pans, they actually used them to inflict it, you know, or not inflict, um, to enhance it and give it a sense of movement as suppose last time where it looked like they were just cutting away because they mm-hmm weren't that good with the swords? Speaker 2 00:43:08 Yeah. I like the part where you knocked the soldiers down. They all crash into each other. Speaker 0 00:43:12 Yep. Classic, classic, Zora move, Speaker 2 00:43:14 Good Speaker 0 00:43:14 Stuff. You know, knocks the captain down the stairs, sees Camille and says, you know, if you think that was good to come upstairs, follow me here and I'll show you a good time. And he just ahead of Camille gets into the room. Let's CRO out of the closet. I mean, if you wanna talk about gay coding, Speaker 2 00:43:31 I actually didn't pick up on that. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:43:33 Gives them back the hat and he and Amelia escape out of the window just before Camille enters the room. Speaker 2 00:43:40 But not before he calls Amelia baby cakes, can't can't get away with that these days. Speaker 0 00:43:45 But yeah. So CRO reveals himself as the Jugo, at least to Camille and they make love. Speaker 2 00:43:52 So I was confused by this. Did Camille literally think that CRO was the Dragoon or did she just not care? Speaker 0 00:43:58 She says it was you all along. Except she was next to him when the Jagar saved them the first time. Speaker 2 00:44:05 He's just that good. Or she's just that dumb. Like she doesn't seem dumb. Speaker 0 00:44:09 No, I, what I'm choosing to believe is that he, it was him this whole time. Speaker 2 00:44:16 Like in this scene? Yes. He had some Patsy do it earlier. Yeah. Oh, alright. Speaker 0 00:44:21 Or I don't know. Speaker 2 00:44:22 We definitely thought about this more than the writer's dad. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:44:25 Yeah. The next day Amelia and Jack are having tea. Amelia reveals that she saw Camille and she looked very satisfied. They're still feeling the effects of the Spanish fly and apparently it'll last, you know, another one to day or two. So she says, she's gonna go horse ride back riding. And he's gonna take a lot of cold showers. Speaker 2 00:44:46 And is there a relationship ruined question mark? Who knows? Speaker 0 00:44:51 Who knows? Cuz we're never, I'm never watching another episode of this. Speaker 2 00:44:54 Oh, what? Come on. It's not that bad. Speaker 0 00:44:57 You were the one who <laugh> said that the theme song was the best part of it. Speaker 2 00:45:01 Well, it is. All right. So now it is time for our spy fact versus fiction. I have one quick thing I forgot to mention from last time. Speaker 0 00:45:07 Sure. What do you got? Speaker 2 00:45:08 Which is that Augus last name was Roth's child. I assume this was Coman knowledge, but maybe not. Roth's child are a very famous British Jewish family, Speaker 0 00:45:18 Right? Speaker 2 00:45:18 They are known for having lots of money and conspiracy theorists think that they control the world. It makes me wonder whether Amelia is supposed to be one of the famous Rothschild. Hmm. They never explicitly say that in the episodes we watched mm-hmm <affirmative> I guess I will maybe find out Speaker 0 00:45:35 <laugh> all right. So what I've got concerns, Spanish fly. This is from Wikipedia Uhhuh. So the Spanish fly is a Emerald green beetle in the blistered beetle family, the species and others and its its family were used in traditional aary prepar preparations as catheters. Speaker 2 00:45:55 What are Speaker 0 00:45:55 Those? I have no idea. And it does not explain the insect is a source of the confin, a toxic blistering agent once used as an aphrodisiac. Well, Speaker 2 00:46:05 There you go. Speaker 0 00:46:06 It's been used since ancient times, possibly, possibly because they're physical effects were perceived to mimic those of sexual arou and because they can cause prolonged erection or prior prism in men. Speaker 2 00:46:18 Well, there you go. Speaker 0 00:46:20 Yeah. So the, actually, if you go on Wikipedia under confin and under the section for AESC preparations, there's actually a lot of different examples of people in history who consumed them. Not always with positive effects, Speaker 2 00:46:35 Anybody we know, Speaker 0 00:46:36 Uh, the Marqui DAAD what she said to have given, uh, Anis flavored, uh, pasts laced with Spanish, fly to two prostitutes at a pair of origins in 1772 poison and nearly killing them. Henry the fourth is set to have consumed them. Yeah. It's uh, Speaker 2 00:46:56 All the royalty. Speaker 0 00:46:57 Uh, but yeah, so that, that is what I got on Spanish fly. Although the stuff that I feel like it's not common now, but you used to see in like the eighties and nineties in your like gas stations. Probably not real Spanish fly <laugh> also don't use it Speaker 2 00:47:15 Little alone, super powerful. Like it is Speaker 0 00:47:17 Here. Yeah. Well that's cuz they didn't have Amelia there to Speaker 2 00:47:21 Super scientist. Speaker 0 00:47:23 10 times the potency. Yeah. Right. All right. Time for favorite quotes. What have you got all actually, you know, I've got only got one. So let me go first Speaker 2 00:47:31 By all means Speaker 0 00:47:33 Amelia, come on. Your position is always what's best for the mission. So think let's think of it as the missionary position. Speaker 2 00:47:38 Yeah. I knew you were gonna like that and it's a good final. Speaker 0 00:47:41 Yeah. I mean a lot of them were very one note, but that one is like, all right, you got some work. They put into that one. Speaker 2 00:47:48 It's also funny cuz in a lot of movies we do with the spies are always going a lot about what's best for the mission. Mm-hmm <affirmative> so it really, it really goes there. Yeah. So some of mine is, well, ESP Espina reaches a new low Speaker 0 00:47:59 <laugh>. Yeah, that was Speaker 2 00:48:00 They're getting started when the drag goon is about to fight the bandit. He says, wait here in act surprise. When I jump out that's solid stuff. Yeah. When they are, uh, about to make out Amelia and Jack, someone says, will you respect me in the morning? And the other one says, I don't respect you now. Speaker 0 00:48:16 That's pretty good. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:48:18 <laugh> and then finally he says, come play this game. It's like cricket. Only fun. Speaker 0 00:48:22 <laugh> Aw, I've played cricket. It can be fun. Speaker 2 00:48:26 I thought it was clever. Speaker 0 00:48:27 Yeah. Now it's pretty good. Speaker 2 00:48:28 All right. So now it's time for our ratings on a scale of one to 10 martinis, one being our ventures, 1997 and 10 being even better than burn notice pilot, how would we rate love number 10? I can go first this time. Speaker 0 00:48:39 Sure. Go ahead. Speaker 2 00:48:40 So I thought this episode was better than the last one. Some of the scenes where they just go on and on and on. I didn't really like, but the comedy of errors at the end was funny Uhhuh and there's the, the fighting was good and a lot of the dialogue was clever. So I'm gonna push it up a little bit more. I'm gonna give it a six and a half fart. Speaker 0 00:48:59 Wow. All right. I, because I predicted pretty much early on where this was going go. I was little less amused by this, the other one, at least the first episode, I was like, I don't actually know where this is going, so I I'll go along for the ride. The fighting was better. Yes. Mm-hmm <affirmative> the story was worse. So that equals out to uh, five out five again. Speaker 2 00:49:22 All right. Perfectly average. This is better than I expected. All right. Well thank you for listening to Jack of all trades to my cohost. I know it wasn't his Todd choice, but it was definitely different. Speaker 0 00:49:35 I mean, it was different. I mean, I feel like now though, to sort of counter this, we probably should have covered turn as well for a more accurate of the era portrayal of, you know, revolutionary war era spies. But we'll just have to save that for another time. Speaker 2 00:49:51 Yeah, exactly. But for now, Jack of all trades holds the title for furthest back in time. We've ever gone to throwing Harriet, which took place in the 1840s. This takes place in 1801. Speaker 0 00:50:02 Huh? I had forgotten that Harriet was as far back as we went before. Wow, that's right. Speaker 2 00:50:06 We gotta go back Marty all the way back. All right. Well thank you for joining us here. 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